- jastrowinkle
- Posts : 1
Join date : 2019-06-07
Age : 65
Location : JASTRO WINKLE, CALIFORNIA
VALUATION? SETTING A PRICING STANDARD
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:00 pm
AS THE ONLY DIAMOND PRODUCER CURRENTLY IN AMERICA, I LEARNED THE BUSINESS OF DIAMOND'S THE ONLY WAY I KNEW HOW.
THAT BEING MY WAY. YOU SEE THERE IS NO BLOG'S TO SHARE INFO OR POST IMAGES. THE INDUSTRY IS SO TIGHTLY GUARDED TO OUTSIDER'S
THAT 99% OF THE INDUSTRY HAVE NEVER HELD A FRESHLY MINED ROUGH DIAMOND IN THIER HAND.
IF DIAMOND'S ARE RARE THEN PORTABLE ROCK ART IS RARER. THERE ARE CURRENTLY 38,000 PLUS SEPARATE TYPE'S & GRADES. NO SINGLE EXPERT KNOW'S
EACH OF THESE TYPES UPON SIGHT. THE PRICING IS NOT BASED SOLEY UPON SIZE OR ANY OF THE OTHER FACTOR'S WHICH COME INTO PLAY.
MOST ART ON A COMMERCIAL SCALE WILL BE PRICED BASED UPON THE SQUARE INCH AT THE LOWQEST LEVEL. ON THE FAR END OF THE SPECTRUM ART IS BASED UPON THE ARTIST. SO NOW IS THE TIME TO ESTABLISH A STANDARD AND SET A STANDARD BEGIN'S WITH THE GRASSROOT SO TO SPEAK.
PRICING ROCK ART WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER BUT MAYBE NOT. SHOULD IT BE PRICED UPON AGE, NUMBER OF IMAGE'S, TYPE OF IMAGE, TYPE OF STONE, OR SQUARE CENTIMETER?
I HAVE LOOKED AT EBAY FOR SPECIMEN'S NOT UNLIKE WHAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED HERE WITH THE AVERAGE PRICE BEING $8,000 USD. I WILL END THIS AND WAIT FOR COMMENT'S BUY WE REALLY DON'T NEED EBAY SETTING A STANDARD ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROBABILITY THAT A GOOD PROTION OF THE ROCK ART POSTED FOR SALE WILL BE FAKE AS WELL AS THE RIPOFF'S WHICH WILL REALLY DICREDIT THIS GRASSROOT TYHING OF OUR'S.
THINK ABOUT IT ....
THAT BEING MY WAY. YOU SEE THERE IS NO BLOG'S TO SHARE INFO OR POST IMAGES. THE INDUSTRY IS SO TIGHTLY GUARDED TO OUTSIDER'S
THAT 99% OF THE INDUSTRY HAVE NEVER HELD A FRESHLY MINED ROUGH DIAMOND IN THIER HAND.
IF DIAMOND'S ARE RARE THEN PORTABLE ROCK ART IS RARER. THERE ARE CURRENTLY 38,000 PLUS SEPARATE TYPE'S & GRADES. NO SINGLE EXPERT KNOW'S
EACH OF THESE TYPES UPON SIGHT. THE PRICING IS NOT BASED SOLEY UPON SIZE OR ANY OF THE OTHER FACTOR'S WHICH COME INTO PLAY.
MOST ART ON A COMMERCIAL SCALE WILL BE PRICED BASED UPON THE SQUARE INCH AT THE LOWQEST LEVEL. ON THE FAR END OF THE SPECTRUM ART IS BASED UPON THE ARTIST. SO NOW IS THE TIME TO ESTABLISH A STANDARD AND SET A STANDARD BEGIN'S WITH THE GRASSROOT SO TO SPEAK.
PRICING ROCK ART WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER BUT MAYBE NOT. SHOULD IT BE PRICED UPON AGE, NUMBER OF IMAGE'S, TYPE OF IMAGE, TYPE OF STONE, OR SQUARE CENTIMETER?
I HAVE LOOKED AT EBAY FOR SPECIMEN'S NOT UNLIKE WHAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED HERE WITH THE AVERAGE PRICE BEING $8,000 USD. I WILL END THIS AND WAIT FOR COMMENT'S BUY WE REALLY DON'T NEED EBAY SETTING A STANDARD ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROBABILITY THAT A GOOD PROTION OF THE ROCK ART POSTED FOR SALE WILL BE FAKE AS WELL AS THE RIPOFF'S WHICH WILL REALLY DICREDIT THIS GRASSROOT TYHING OF OUR'S.
THINK ABOUT IT ....
Re: VALUATION? SETTING A PRICING STANDARD
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:54 pm
I value you input and thoughts on this subject. To myself, not from a monetary aspect I value the stones on the supposed accuracy of any figurative description and the number of those descriptions, obvious modification and the presence of common blade features. I also value descriptions that fall out of time with current theory, Dino's, UK croc's and tortoise, gorillas, chimps, apes etc...
I have not sold any of my portable rock art finds, but have thought about it, I value my research and proving this art type before any monetary gain I may get from selling any of them.
As with any art piece and many other things for that matter, price is based on what people are willing to pay for any item.
Thanks for raising the subject.
I have not sold any of my portable rock art finds, but have thought about it, I value my research and proving this art type before any monetary gain I may get from selling any of them.
As with any art piece and many other things for that matter, price is based on what people are willing to pay for any item.
Thanks for raising the subject.
- diamondproducersofamericaGuest
IT TAKE'S A BIG MAN TO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF A SMALL STONE
Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:55 am
PORTABLE ROCK ART IS LIKE DIAMOND'S.
IF IT IS DISCOVERED IN AMERICA PEOPLE AT FIRST IGNORE IT,
IT MUST BE NATIVE AMERICAN...
IT MUST BE A REPRODUCTION...
THEY ARE STOLEN....
IT WOULD NOT BENEFIT THE WORK AND EFFORT PUT OUT BY THE ANTHRO COMMUNITY IF A NORTH AMERICAN DISCOVERY FORCED THEM TO REWRITE HISTORY THE PRINTING INDUSTRY WOULD COLLAPSE UNDER THE WEIGHT.
IT SEEM'S THAT EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED AA SYSTEM OF VALUATION FOR PORTABLE ROCKART DISCOVERED IN OTHER PLACES.
IT IS A FACT THAT THEY PLACE SUCH A HIGH VALUE ON ROCKART THAT THEY CAN NOT CONCIEVE OF NORTH AMERICAN ROCKART COMPETING.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT NORTH AMERICAN ROCKART WILL NOT BE ACKNOWLEDGE AS DATING BACK TO PRE CLOVIS BECAUSE THERE IS JUST TO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED
IF IT IS DISCOVERED IN AMERICA PEOPLE AT FIRST IGNORE IT,
IT MUST BE NATIVE AMERICAN...
IT MUST BE A REPRODUCTION...
THEY ARE STOLEN....
IT WOULD NOT BENEFIT THE WORK AND EFFORT PUT OUT BY THE ANTHRO COMMUNITY IF A NORTH AMERICAN DISCOVERY FORCED THEM TO REWRITE HISTORY THE PRINTING INDUSTRY WOULD COLLAPSE UNDER THE WEIGHT.
IT SEEM'S THAT EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED AA SYSTEM OF VALUATION FOR PORTABLE ROCKART DISCOVERED IN OTHER PLACES.
IT IS A FACT THAT THEY PLACE SUCH A HIGH VALUE ON ROCKART THAT THEY CAN NOT CONCIEVE OF NORTH AMERICAN ROCKART COMPETING.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT NORTH AMERICAN ROCKART WILL NOT BE ACKNOWLEDGE AS DATING BACK TO PRE CLOVIS BECAUSE THERE IS JUST TO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED
- Greglafla
- Posts : 227
Join date : 2019-06-28
Re: VALUATION? SETTING A PRICING STANDARD
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:47 am
I’m not sure you can expect value from any of this stuff. I’m into it and can’t really see half of what Is claimed in these rocks, not that it isn’t there, just hard to perceive in a photos. To expect people to pay money for things they can’t perceive is wishful thinking.
- Baggy
- Posts : 67
Join date : 2019-07-14
Money would never drive
Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:39 pm
Hi I’m with Brett on this one.
Personally I would never sell any of my finds as I believe that would bring bad luck.
Supply and demand category I think
Personally I would never sell any of my finds as I believe that would bring bad luck.
Supply and demand category I think
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